I never said that COBOL was gone. But as a long term career, COBOL is a poor choice. Now, COBOL plus <something else> may be a good thing in most companies today. But a COBOL-only programmer isn't going to have a good job for 20 years.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
I never said that COBOL was gone. But as a long term career, COBOL is a poor choice. Now, COBOL plus <something else> may be a good thing in most companies today. But a COBOL-only programmer isn't going to have a good job for 20 years.
if they worked for my state govt they would.
oI never said that COBOL was gone. But as a long term career, COBOL is a poor choice. Now, COBOL plus <something else> may be a good thing in most companies today. But a COBOL-only programmer isn't going to have a good
for 20 years.
if they worked for my state govt they would.
MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-
I never said that COBOL was gone. But as a long term career, COBOL is a poor choice. Now, COBOL plus <something else> may be a good thing in most companies today. But a COBOL-only programmer isn't going to have a good job for 20 years.
if they worked for my state govt they would.
Dr. What wrote to MRO <=-
*sigh* Yes. I keep forgetting about the technical backwater which is
the gov't.
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-
if they worked for my state govt they would.
They would here, too, *except* they could get paid a lot more
elsewhere, even as a contract employee.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to MRO <=-
Yeah, I don't think the idea was to put all of your eggs in one basket, says the guy with FORTRAN in his handle. :)
They would here, too, *except* they could get paid a lot more
elsewhere, even as a contract employee.
Yeah, but after working for a local government for a time, the key isn't
the salary - it's the PENSION. Keep your head down, don't make waves,
last 5 years and you could start collecting a pension when you retire.
The floor was something like 5% after 5 years, scaling upwards every
year. 5 percent of your salary FOR LIFE. Once you get in the habit of
doing just enough to not get fired and don't come onto anyone's radar,
the years just keep piling up.
*sigh* Yes. I keep forgetting about the technical backwater which is the gov't.
California EDD was backlogged during COVID and blamed their COBOL code.
I bet they were waiting on budget for another dozen AS/400s.
Feoh wrote to unixl0rd <=-
He recently lost his job with IBM, and was casting around looking for
new employment, and it was rough.
Does that mean you shouldn't learn COBOL or IBM mainframe technology?
Not at all! It could be an interesting experience and improve the depth and breadth of your understanding of technology as a whole.
To my mind, contributing to open source and building a resume of code people can review and appreciate matters a lot more, as well as job experience.
I just found out that IBM offers a free introductory COBOL course:
https://www.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-training/free-course-announcing-learning-cobol rogramming-with-vscode/
Is there actual demand for new COBOL developers? I thought companies were on
Thoughts?
... It is always darkest just before you turn on the lights.
Speaking from experience, where I work (as is the case everywhere) the cobol programmers are aging out and retiring. The new ones we hire are still in the same general age range and I'm sure they are demanding a
lot of money since the pool is getting smaller and the codebase is still significant.
Speaking from experience, where I work (as is the case everywhere) the cobol programmers are aging out and retiring. The new ones we hire are still in the same general age range and I'm sure they are demanding a lot of money since the pool is getting smaller and the codebase is still significant.
I've got about fifteen years of experience as a web developer and to be honest I am kinda bored. Learning COBOL might give me the stimulation I need right now even if it doesn't land me a job.
unixl0rd wrote to CDP <=-
I've got about fifteen years of experience as a web developer and to be honest I am kinda bored. Learning COBOL might give me the stimulation I need right now even if it doesn't land me a job.
I've got about fifteen years of experience as a web developer and to be honest I am kinda bored. Learning COBOL might give me the stimulation I need right now even if it doesn't land me a job.
I've got about fifteen years of experience as a web developer and to be hone
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Re: Re: COBOL?
By: unixl0rd to CDP on Thu Jun 01 2023 07:45 pm
I've got about fifteen years of experience as a web developer and to be hone
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Coincidentally I have a book sitting on my desk in front of me that I had tucked away for years and never used. Sams Teach Yourself Cobol in 21 Days. I've actually been going through that in my spare time just to do something with the book before I pass it on. I work mostly as an admin in
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