I'm trying to send someone a netmail message and keep getting this error?

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Running native timed event: ?binkit
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:105/7@fidonet, file: C:\sbbs\fido\outbound\00690007.cut
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:105/7@fidonet started
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Timed event: '?binkit' returned 0

It is a valid netmail address. Anyone have an idea how to fix this?

Thanks
Rick V

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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Rick V to All on Thu Jun 05 2025 01:51 pm

I'm trying to send someone a netmail message and keep getting this error?

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Running native timed event: ?binkit 6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options: 6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:105/7@fidonet, file: C:\sbbs\fido\outbound\00690007.cut
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:105/7@fidonet started 6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554 failed

That's my FidoNet address..

To my knowledge, normally I think FTN messages should be routed through your hub, rather than connecting directly to each system to transfer mail. Although if directly connecting to another FTN node is valid, I'm not sure why my binkp wouldn't be answering connections. I did take my BBS down for a couple minutes earlier though, and maybe your BBS happened to try to connect during that time?

Nightfox

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Hello Nightfox.

I'm trying to send someone a netmail message and keep getting
this error?

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Running native timed event: ?binkit 6/5
01:47:58p BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options: 6/5
01:47:58p BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:105/7@fidonet, file:
C:\sbbs\fido\outbound\00690007.cut
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:105/7@fidonet
started 6/5
01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at
f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
failed

That's my FidoNet address..

To my knowledge, normally I think FTN messages should be routed
through your hub, rather than connecting directly to each system to transfer mail. Although if directly connecting to another FTN node is valid, I'm not sure why my binkp wouldn't be answering connections. I
did take my BBS down for a couple minutes earlier though, and maybe
your BBS happened to try to connect during that time?

Nightfox

I was trying to netmail you from my SBBS system but am not able to. I sent you the other netmail from my Mystic system without a problem. I can't figure out why I can't send netmail out.

RickV


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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Richard Vonzel to Nightfox on Thu Jun 05 2025 05:00 pm

I was trying to netmail you from my SBBS system but am not able to. I sent you the other netmail from my Mystic system without a problem. I can't figure out why I can't send netmail out.

It looks like my BBS is also connecting to yours to send netmail. I got your netmail earlier and sent a reply - Did you receive it?

Nightfox

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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Rick V to All on Thu Jun 05 2025 01:51 pm

I'm trying to send someone a netmail message and keep getting this error?

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Running native timed event: ?binkit
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:105/7@fidonet, file: C:\sbbs\fido\outbound\00690007.cut
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:105/7@fidonet started
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Timed event: '?binkit' returned 0

It is a valid netmail address. Anyone have an idea how to fix this?

f7.n105.z1.fidonet is not a valid host name. You can verify that with any DNS lookup tool:
$ host f7.n105.z1.fidonet
Host f7.n105.z1.fidonet not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I think you have your zone 1 configured for the wrong DNSSuffix in echocfg, that should be 'binkp.net', not 'fidonet':

$ host f7.n105.z1.binkp.net
f7.n105.z1.binkp.net is an alias for digdist.synchro.net.
digdist.synchro.net has address 50.46.162.90
digdist.synchro.net mail is handled by 0 mail.synchro.net.
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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Rick V to All on Thu Jun 05 2025 01:51 pm

Howdy,

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).

That address looks wrong to me.

ie: f7.n105.z1.fidonet is not a valid internet host name.


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Hello Digital.

27 Oct 70 11:26, you wrote to Rick V:

Re: Can't send netmail
By: Rick V to All on Thu Jun 05 2025 01:51 pm

I'm trying to send someone a netmail message and keep getting this
error?

6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Running native timed event: ?binkit
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:105/7@fidonet,
file:
C:\sbbs\fido\outbound\00690007.cut
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:105/7@fidonet
started
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connecting to 1:105/7@fidonet at
f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Connection to f7.n105.z1.fidonet:24554
failed (Error: No such host is known. ).
6/5 01:47:58p BINKOUT Timed event: '?binkit' returned 0

It is a valid netmail address. Anyone have an idea how to fix this?

f7.n105.z1.fidonet is not a valid host name. You can verify that with
any DNS lookup tool: $ host f7.n105.z1.fidonet Host f7.n105.z1.fidonet
not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I think you have your zone 1 configured for the wrong DNSSuffix in echocfg, that should be 'binkp.net', not 'fidonet':

That was it.. Changed that and the netmail went right through.

$ host f7.n105.z1.binkp.net
f7.n105.z1.binkp.net is an alias for digdist.synchro.net. digdist.synchro.net has address 50.46.162.90
digdist.synchro.net mail is handled by 0 mail.synchro.net.
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Thanks,
Rick

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Hello Nightfox.

27 Oct 70 09:08, you wrote to me:

@h@bRe@n@b: @h@cCan't send netmail
@bBy@n@b: @h@cRichard Vonzel @bto @cNightfox @bon @cThu Jun 05 2025 05:00 pm@n

I was trying to netmail you from my SBBS system but am not able
to. I sent you the other netmail from my Mystic system without a
problem. I can't figure out why I can't send netmail out.

It looks like my BBS is also connecting to yours to send netmail. I
got your netmail earlier and sent a reply - Did you receive it?

Nightfox

I got it on my Mystic, not SBBS. I've been reading the Netmail setup on the wiki page to see if I have everything correct. I'm not sure how Synchronet knows where to send netmail with out nodelist information.

RickV


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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Richard Vonzel to Nightfox on Thu Jun 05 2025 06:08 pm

I got it on my Mystic, not SBBS. I've been reading the Netmail setup on the wiki page to see if I have everything correct. I'm not sure how Synchronet knows where to send netmail with out nodelist information.

Synchronet does use nodelist information. In echocfg, there's a section called "Domains", where a "domain" is a network. In there, you can configure which nodelist filse to use for which FTN network. For instance, you can have a domain entry called "fidonet", with zones 1,2,3,4 and specify the fidonet nodelist file there. And for each linked node you add, you can specify the domain of the node. Synchronet (or rather, sbbsecho) will match the node to the nodelist that way.

Nightfox

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Hello Nightfox.

28 Oct 70 14:34, you wrote to me:

Re: Can't send netmail
By: Richard Vonzel to Nightfox on Thu Jun 05 2025 06:08 pm

I got it on my Mystic, not SBBS. I've been reading the Netmail
setup on the wiki page to see if I have everything correct. I'm
not sure how Synchronet knows where to send netmail with out
nodelist information.

Synchronet does use nodelist information. In echocfg, there's a
section called "Domains", where a "domain" is a network. In there,
you can configure which nodelist filse to use for which FTN network.
For instance, you can have a domain entry called "fidonet", with zones 1,2,3,4 and specify the fidonet nodelist file there. And for each
linked node you add, you can specify the domain of the node.
Synchronet (or rather, sbbsecho) will match the node to the nodelist
that way.

Nightfox

Your right I miss spoke, I did know that, I had the domain set wrong.

RickV

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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Nightfox to Richard Vonzel on Fri Jun 06 2025 09:21 am

Re: Can't send netmail
By: Richard Vonzel to Nightfox on Thu Jun 05 2025 06:08 pm

I got it on my Mystic, not SBBS. I've been reading the Netmail setup on the wiki page to see if I have everything correct. I'm not sure how Synchronet knows where to send netmail with out nodelist information.

Synchronet does use nodelist information.

Not sure if that was a typo, but Synchronet (and SBBSecho) does *not* use nodelist information.

In echocfg, there's a section
called "Domains", where a "domain" is a network. In there, you can configure which nodelist filse to use for which FTN network. For instance, you can have a domain entry called "fidonet", with zones 1,2,3,4 and specify the fidonet nodelist file there.

That's for BinkIt's use (only).

And for each linked node you add, you can
specify the domain of the node. Synchronet (or rather, sbbsecho) will match the node to the nodelist that way.

Not exactly. BinkIt can use the nodelist, but not Synchronet or SBBSecho.
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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Richard Vonzel to Nightfox on Fri Jun 06 2025 01:52 pm

Your right I miss spoke, I did know that, I had the domain set wrong.

You had the DNSSuffix set wrong.
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Re: Can't send netmail
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Jun 06 2025 06:33 pm

Synchronet does use nodelist information.

Not sure if that was a typo, but Synchronet (and SBBSecho) does *not* use nodelist information.

In echocfg, there's a section
called "Domains", where a "domain" is a network. In there, you can
configure which nodelist filse to use for which FTN network. For instance,
you can have a domain entry called "fidonet", with zones 1,2,3,4 and
specify the fidonet nodelist file there.

That's for BinkIt's use (only).

Not exactly. BinkIt can use the nodelist, but not Synchronet or SBBSecho.

Ah, thanks for clarifying it. And I guess I said Synchronet earlier in my message since I consider BinkIt and sbbsecho as being included with Synchronet.

Nightfox

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